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Morning Gab: 5/28 Seahawks Links

This is actually still the night for me as I am heavily medicated and just can’t sleep right now, it’s ok, I like being a night owl on occasion.

Here are some links from around Hawkville

Kyle Ortons Seahawk Viablity

ESPN NFC West Blogger Mike Sando weighs in on a readers question regarding Kyle Orton and the Seattle Seahawks.

My Carson Palmer Article Regurgitated

The Carson Palmer article regarding a Seahawks Draft Blog report citing two trusted sources of the site (with no other media outlet or blog reporting anything else), I wrote a few days ago has been caught by Football News Now.

The funny thing is that the SDB report is a month old, so this guy obviously read the SeahawksGab article and then didn’t give credit to SeahawksGab, thanks dude.

Remembering Steve Broussard

Pretty self explanatory, check it out, good read.

Seahawks Won’t Aggressively Pursue Kevin Kolb.

I recently placed Kolb 5th on my list of best available options at quarterback. The cost, risk, reward, and alternatives just make this a no for Seattle. Carson Palmer (if he’s available), Matt Hasselbeck, Donovan McNabb Kyle Orton, and Vince Young are proven options, cheaper options, and it could be argued all are better options as well.

Rebuilding Seahawks need a quarterback

The Tuscon Sun thinks the Seahawks need a quarterback, unless you want Charlie Whitehurst to start, uh, duh?

From KC Joyner on ESPN Insider on why he believes Kyle Orton is the best available quarterback:

“In his 1986 Baseball Abstract, Bill James summed up one of his most important recurring analytical themes: “Bad organizations will tend to project their weaknesses onto their best players, and ultimately will dwell not on what the player can do, but on what he can’t.”

That theme also applies to pro football, and the most recent egregious case of this would have to be Kyle Orton.

During his three seasons (2005-2008) with the Chicago Bears, Orton posted a 21-12 record. On most teams, having a 26-year-old quarterback (Orton’s age during the 2008 season) capable of winning two out of every three starts would be seen as a boon, but that wasn’t the case with the Bears.

Orton’s next stop was with the Denver Broncos. Denver actually fielded fairly strong quarterback play in the 12 seasons after John Elway retired (Brian Griese and Jake Plummer both made the Pro Bowl during their Broncos tenure), but in the end the team and its fan base seemingly won’t accept anything less than year-in, year-out Elway-caliber play from its passers. This is probably why Denver has reportedly been considering trading Orton, and likely would have made the move if not for the lockout.

At this point, whether the Broncos end up keeping Orton or are able to send him to another organization is somewhat irrelevant. What’s significant is the lack of willingness of two different teams to stick with him as the starter — making many believe that Orton is a stopgap measure at best. There is also a perception in some circles that he might not be as good as some of the other potential quarterback acquisitions this offseason (either free agents or trade candidates).

The metrics make a clear case as to why both of those assertions are incorrect.

Last season, Orton posted 7.5 yards per attempt (YPA). This total ranked tied with Eli Manning and David Garrard for the ninth-highest overall YPA in the NFL. (Note: This YPA total includes attempts and yards racked up on penalty plays such as pass interference, defensive holding, illegal contact, etc.)

That wasn’t the only place where Orton ranked in the top 10. He also placed 10th in vertical YPA with an 11.5 mark (vertical passes being defined as those thrown 11 or more yards downfield) and had the fourth-best YPA (18.7) on bomb passes (thrown 20 or more yards).

And his case can actually be taken back further than just this past year. Since 2008, 17 quarterbacks have won at least 20 regular-season games, an elite group including Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Brett Favre, Philip Rivers, Aaron Rodgers and Orton.

If we take the cumulative numbers each of these quarterbacks posted during this time frame, we find that the median passer rating mark was 88.3.

Orton’s passer rating in that time frame was 84.8. That’s a mere 3.5 passer rating points away from being in the statistical middle of an elite group of NFL quarterbacks.

In that same time frame, Orton posted a 2.2 percent interception rate, a total that was bested by only two other 20-win quarterbacks (Brady and Rodgers).

Those numbers prove that Orton is a very capable quarterback, but his capability looks even more impressive when compared to some of the other potential free-agent quarterbacks, or quarterbacks available via trade this offseason.

Since Kevin Kolb is considered the top quarterback available, let’s compare his numbers with Orton’s. Some teams were reportedly considering trading a first-round draft pick in 2011 for Kolb, but Orton beat him last year by a significant margin in a wide variety of categories, including overall YPA (7.5 for Orton, 6.2 for Kolb) and vertical YPA (11.5 for Orton, 9.8 for Kolb).

Kolb also has a penchant for taking more on-field risks than just about any quarterback around. His 4 percent bad-decision rate last year was tied for the third-highest total in that category. Since the definition of this metric is when a quarterback makes a mistake with the ball that leads either to a turnover or a near turnover (e.g. dropped interception), it means Kolb was making a mistake about once in every 25 pass attempts.

Now contrast that with Orton’s 1.9 percent bad-decision rate (tied for eighth-best in the league), which means he made an error of this nature about once in every 50 passes.

Finally, Orton will turn only 29 years old this November, which means that he should be able to give a team at least 3-4 years worth of quality production.

The Broncos could certainly use a quarterback of that nature, but if they can’t keep themselves from viewing Orton through an Elway prism (something that might be difficult, given that Elway himself is involved in the personnel decision-making process), Orton has to hope he will land with a team that is willing to see his strengths for what they are rather than what they aren’t. Even if he isn’t a truly elite quarterback, he’s the best available quarterback this offseason.”

Credit goes to ESPN and KC Joyner for above quoted text.

 

 

 

 

 


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